Article Promoting Vaccinations

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The Sanctity of Human Blood
Read it. - Zinga , posted 01/20/10
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This is in large part a free speech issue
Leaving aside your views of vaccines it is alarming that anti vaxxers want to intimidate their opponets with a lawsuit. They should just argue this on the merits (or lack thereof)

I agree that some of the anti vaxxers have an anti medical science agenda. They take the foolish approach that anything from mainstream medicine is part of some conspiracy by BIg Pharm and that anything called alternative is good and holy. Alternative approaches that are PROVEN to work are just called medicine. I do not believe that there is a conspiracy by science to destroy alternative methods its just that so many alternative medicines do not stand up under the usual doubke blind studies.

On the issue of free speech it should be noted that the posted website called "The Jenny McCarthy Body Count" has not been threatened with a lawsuit. My guess is that Ms. McCarthy knows that she is not capable of defending her views in court and that she would very likely not win such a suit. - Unsubscribed , posted 01/20/10
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An article that actually gets it right
Weak argument from authority Xiomara. If your argument is to be upheld how do I distinguish Jessica from the doctors whom I shouldn't believe about vaccinations? Just don't question some doctors and not others? I think calling it a hack job on everyone who is concerned is a diversion as in reality the anti-vaxxers are getting a mainstream foothold and affecting real lives, is it really necessary to wait until polio and measles return to swing it back? I think the hammer needs to be swung hard and early, a slightly less distatseful tactic than the anti-vaxxers actually use.
Considering within the realm of medicine pretty much every infectious disease doctor will tell you one of the most important and most effective advances in medicine has been vaccines it's difficult to turn a blind eye while people disseminate fear without facts and use an anti-science agenda to promote their ideology.
Even if you believe they paint with too broad of a brush Wired is still on the money and in the face of the proven effectiveness to low risk ratio of vaccines the proof of harm is now incumbent on the part of "concerned" individuals, yet still science has to defend itself... go figure. The evidence for effectiveness is there, the evidence for harm is still lacking and ever changing. The thing you anti-science people always seem to miss is that all scientists do not have the same agenda or motivation so when the evidence is clear and present science as a while shifts, changes views and moves forward with new knowledge. I think it's clear why mainstream science still opposes the anti-vaccination agenda.
www.wired.com/magazine/20...aronscience/ (the other link seems to be broken?) - Unsubscribed , posted 01/18/10
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Hmmm
Raise your hand if you are a medical doctor who works in an actual hospital.

Oh look at that, Jessica is the only one who can raise her hand.


"The thing you anti-science people always seem to miss is"

Hah! Interesting Jeremy, that you wrongly assume that I am anti-vaxx or anti science. Bzzzt Wrong! Simply seeing this article for the hack job that it is doesn't mean one disapproves of vaccinations or science. This is why I pointed out that the one person commenting on the obvious bias in the article is actually a medical doctor (who works in a mainstream hospital). And by the way I hold a science degree and am married to a scientist and vaccinate my son. Doesn't mean I don't recognize an extremely biased article when I see one. - , posted 01/20/10
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Hack job? Hardly.
Given that linking vaccines to autism has never been successfully repeated in studies and given the danger of not getting vaccinated, this article is quite valuable to read. - Tedster , posted 01/15/10
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Hack job
I read the article too, and i came away feeling like it was a hack job on those who have concerns about vaccinations. I mean, seriously- take the behavior of a few extremists and portray it as the norm of every person who questions vaccinating? - Jessica , posted 01/14/10
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Anti Vaxxers Do Not Want You To Read This
Anti Vaxxers are going to sue the author of this article www.wired.com/magazine/20...waronscience

More resources fro pro vaccine information: antiantivax.flurf.net/

blogs.discovermagazine.com/bada...ally/

"Continuing a month of skeptical victories, the UK’s General Medical Council has found that Andrew Wakefield — the founder of the modern antivaccination movement — acted "dishonestly and irresponsibly" when doing the research that led him to conclude that vaccinations were linked with autism. This is being reported everywhere, including the BBC, Sky News, the Yorkshire Evening Post, and more.

The GMC (the independent body of medical regulators in the UK, rather like the AMA in the US) didn’t investigate whether his claims were correct or not — and let’s be very clear, his claims have been shown beyond any doubt to be totally wrong — only whether he acted ethically in his research. What they found is that his research (involving spinal taps of children) was against the children’s clinical interest, that Wakefield was unqualified to perform the test, and that he had no ethical approval to do them."



www.jennymccarthybodycount.com/Je...tml

www.cdc.gov/vaccines/vac.../6mishome.htm

Don't forget that some of the anti vaxxers have an agenda to sell you disproven crap like homeopathy as an alternative to scientific medicine that actually works.

www.quackwatch.com/01Quacke...omeo.html

www.skepdic.com/homeo.html - Hummingbird , posted 01/28/10
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